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you had sandy. i mean, it may be -- the journal argued it's the least important jobs number in five years. >> i saw that. i do think one thing we can certainly say given that china seems to be stabilizing a bit, we can all discuss europe. greek situation. maybe it's off the front pages for a while. and so if we assume that the jobs picture in the u.s. is not bad, let's assume not bad, it puts even more of a focus on the fiscal cliff negotiations because it becomes even more binding one would assume in terms of good or bad for the market, for the economy. >> kernen had a good point. does strength mean the economy could handle a cliff or is it so good you wouldn't want to tamper -- >> if i wanted to create a recession, what would i do? i would raise everybody's rates. i would cut the unemployment benefit. just trying to think of a theory of how i could cause a recession. i would cut back government spending quickly. >> i would raise interest rates to 20%. >> bernanke ought to join the -- look, i think
you had sandy. i mean, it may be -- the journal argued it's the least important jobs number in five years. >> i saw that. i do think one thing we can certainly say given that china seems to be stabilizing a bit, we can all discuss europe. greek situation. maybe it's off the front pages for a while. and so if we assume that the jobs picture in the u.s. is not bad, let's assume not bad, it puts even more of a focus on the fiscal cliff negotiations because it becomes even more binding one...
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now, again, back to hurricane sandy. from the commissioner's statement, the storm we saw happen on october 29th, the next pay period ended on november 12th. the way bls essentially keeps score it says workers have to be off work for the entire pay period to be counted on the negative side. on the household survey side, persons who missed work for weather-related events are counted as employed whether or not they are paid for the time off. we did have a drop in the labor force participation rate, down 0.2 to 63.6%. how did we get to 7.7% unemployment? basically the number of unemployed persons dropped more than the number of employed and there were downward trends in both those categories. lots to chew on. back to you guys. >> hampton, thank you. we are kind of scratching our heads. let's get more reaction from our panel. mark zandi and jared bernstein are here with us. mark, what do you make of this number? we've set this up as numbers were not going to be things we watched closely because of sandy. >> i'd say two things
now, again, back to hurricane sandy. from the commissioner's statement, the storm we saw happen on october 29th, the next pay period ended on november 12th. the way bls essentially keeps score it says workers have to be off work for the entire pay period to be counted on the negative side. on the household survey side, persons who missed work for weather-related events are counted as employed whether or not they are paid for the time off. we did have a drop in the labor force participation...
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hurricane sandy, though, still making waves. analysts expect the super storm to dent unemployment figures out later today. we'll review that report when we come back. >>> here are the headlines. u.s. job growth is expected to have slowed significantly in november as hurricane sandy battered the economy. japanese authorities have lifted all tsunami warnings after a 7.3 magnitude quake struck off the northeastern coast. and bundesbank has sharply lowered germany's growth outlook from 1.6 to a mere 0.4%. it's warned of an imminent recession as problems in europe periphery weigh. futures at the moment forecasts a soft start. down 15 at the moment on the dow, nasdaq currently called down 3.8, and s&p 500 around 1.5 points. european stocks are flat really. forgave points for the ftse, xetra dax is up though at it highest level since 2008. up nearly 28% this year. flat on the cac, ibex down two thirds. but hurricane sandy is expected to have put a pretty big accident in the november u.s. jobs report. it's out at 8:30 eastern. nonfarm p
hurricane sandy, though, still making waves. analysts expect the super storm to dent unemployment figures out later today. we'll review that report when we come back. >>> here are the headlines. u.s. job growth is expected to have slowed significantly in november as hurricane sandy battered the economy. japanese authorities have lifted all tsunami warnings after a 7.3 magnitude quake struck off the northeastern coast. and bundesbank has sharply lowered germany's growth outlook from 1.6...
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no substantive sandy in the jobs numbers. the lack of sandy effect has us scratching our heads, what they said. i just got off the phone with the guy who's the head of doing the numbers, labor numbers at the bls. he walked me through the rather extensibilive process they did fine out if there was any sandy effect, including sampling of businesses in a flood tide areas. >> it was very meticulous. >> i'm pretty convinced they did a good job figuring out if there was an effect and there is no effect which brings us to the numbers which you could believe on face value as much as you can. they'll revise this again. they only come forward with 60% to 70% of the sample. unemployment rate falling 7.7% because largely a drop in the labor force. average hourly earnings up 0.2%. despite positive headlines, xwoeld man sax says we interpret this report as one only slightly better than expected overall given downward revisions and weaker labor force and it does not change our assessment of the underlying strength of the labor market. priva
no substantive sandy in the jobs numbers. the lack of sandy effect has us scratching our heads, what they said. i just got off the phone with the guy who's the head of doing the numbers, labor numbers at the bls. he walked me through the rather extensibilive process they did fine out if there was any sandy effect, including sampling of businesses in a flood tide areas. >> it was very meticulous. >> i'm pretty convinced they did a good job figuring out if there was an effect and...
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everybody suggested that sandy would have a significant impact. but the labor department itself is saying no, it did not. is that correct, peter? >> that's correct. and it's because of the way the labor department retrieves and asks businesses and people about their employment. for example, if you work for one hour during a week and there is a storm, you're still counted as employed. for you not to be counted as employed, you can work no hours and get no pay during the particular survey week. >> you've had a chance to go through the whole report. any other headlines stand out at you? >> well, we're substantially revisions in september and october. 50,000 fewer jobs created in those two months than had previously been expected and the labor department does say that we should get a better read of any possible impact of sandy on individual states and regions when they release other numbers, other reports on those in two weeks from now. >> peter barns, thank you very much. i will repeat this because it is a surprise, 7.7% is the unemployment rate. 146
everybody suggested that sandy would have a significant impact. but the labor department itself is saying no, it did not. is that correct, peter? >> that's correct. and it's because of the way the labor department retrieves and asks businesses and people about their employment. for example, if you work for one hour during a week and there is a storm, you're still counted as employed. for you not to be counted as employed, you can work no hours and get no pay during the particular survey...
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so sandy did leave an impact in the data. but i think the report as a whole shows that the economy has been resilient, as i say every month when i'm on your show we're making progress. we're digging our way out of a deep hole. we're not satisfied yet. there's a long way to go. but there are signs that the economy is continuing to heal. >> is it a realistic possibility a year ago today the unemployment rate was 8.7%. today it's 7.7%. is it a realistic possibility, i know you don't like to project numbers, but that we could expect another point drop a year from now? is. >> well, we'll come out with our official projections when the budget comes out but i would say if congress does address the problems that it needs to address concerning the fiscal cliff if we had reasonable resolution type of programs that the president has been proposing to support the economy in the short run, get us on a sustainable fiscal path in the long run, protect the middle class, we're going to continue to see progress in this economy. in fact, i woul
so sandy did leave an impact in the data. but i think the report as a whole shows that the economy has been resilient, as i say every month when i'm on your show we're making progress. we're digging our way out of a deep hole. we're not satisfied yet. there's a long way to go. but there are signs that the economy is continuing to heal. >> is it a realistic possibility a year ago today the unemployment rate was 8.7%. today it's 7.7%. is it a realistic possibility, i know you don't like to...
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the labor department says no affect on sandy. there was some data that pointed to the fact that people were leaving the workforce because of sandy. >> the numbers speak for themselves. i do not think the full effects can be known until maybe a couple of weeks. there certainly are people that cannot go to work and have been laid off because businesses are out. there are all sorts of new jobs that have sprung up. i may head down there and start looking for a job myself. cheryl: construction, there was a loss of 20,000. most of us expected a little bit of a game and that ector. >> maybe it will take a little bit longer to give up. my brother is still out of his house. they cannot get anyone to do work on it yet. cheryl: let's go over to the cme. i know that metals has been a big focus for a lot of traders today. what are you watching? >> just the price action in gold. it really gives the feedback. people, you know, maybe a risk on trade. it jumps back to the 17th 04 daily highs. that makes me believe i want to belong before the meet
the labor department says no affect on sandy. there was some data that pointed to the fact that people were leaving the workforce because of sandy. >> the numbers speak for themselves. i do not think the full effects can be known until maybe a couple of weeks. there certainly are people that cannot go to work and have been laid off because businesses are out. there are all sorts of new jobs that have sprung up. i may head down there and start looking for a job myself. cheryl:...
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so over a month ago hurricane sandy brought our system to its knees. we experienced a level of destruction that is unprecedented in our 108-year history. there were eight flooded tunnels, 12 subway stations with major damage, some of them destroyed. we lost an entire bridge and a rare line serving a rock line in queens. and we have rail yards and maintenance shops underwater and damaged. just as the superstorm was unprecedented so was the level of our preparation. we shut down the entire system just for the second time in our 108-year history. as it turned out, even our preparation, would not actually, could not protected our entire system from the full-force of sandy's rather. what we saw was truly unbelievable. we watched more than 86 million gallons flood and rush into the two tubes. once sandy passed our top priority was to restore service as quickly and safely as possible. i could not be more proud of the workers and the labor and management who worked so well. we had buses up and running seven hours after the storm, nine hours after that we were
so over a month ago hurricane sandy brought our system to its knees. we experienced a level of destruction that is unprecedented in our 108-year history. there were eight flooded tunnels, 12 subway stations with major damage, some of them destroyed. we lost an entire bridge and a rare line serving a rock line in queens. and we have rail yards and maintenance shops underwater and damaged. just as the superstorm was unprecedented so was the level of our preparation. we shut down the entire system...
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sandy which hit 25% of the u.s. population, 25 states or something like would that cut job creation andket the unemployment rate a bit, kept it higher. turns out sandy did have an impact but not on the headline numbers. >> if you look deeper in the report you see over a million workers who normally work full-time were reduced to part-time hours during the reference week because of bad wetter. over 300,000 additional workers weren't able to work at all because of bad weather. >> but because the way the labor department counts full-time workers part time workers and whether people work at all, and when they work, it didn't show up in the headline numbers . one thing that did, 350,000 people left the workforce in november. that was one reason again why the unemployment rate dropped to 7.7%. ashley and tracy. ashley: sounded good to begin with then you take in those factors as peter outlined, maybe not so good. peter, thank you so much. tracy: there is lot more ugly in the report and we'll talk about it now actually bec
sandy which hit 25% of the u.s. population, 25 states or something like would that cut job creation andket the unemployment rate a bit, kept it higher. turns out sandy did have an impact but not on the headline numbers. >> if you look deeper in the report you see over a million workers who normally work full-time were reduced to part-time hours during the reference week because of bad wetter. over 300,000 additional workers weren't able to work at all because of bad weather. >> but...
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sandy was probably the last significant measurable rain we have had. we can use it. we will have chances on and off throughout the weekend. consider yourself lucky. it is friday. we do have showers north and west of the metro. everybody is sucked in with the cloudiness. nothing is sitting in the district right now. there are some drizzles at dulles. we had a touch just to the south and moving over towards the eastern shore at this time. it is a beautiful stark, isn't it? take a look at this gorgeous picture overlooking a georgetown. temperatures are not terrible. it is 40 degrees at this time. it is 36 in gaithersburg. temperature in manassas, 39 degrees. we had a drizzle at dulles. temperatures are better this morning than they were yesterday. at least we have that going for us. a cold front is starting off out to the west. we have a little area of low pressure. we are kind of stuck in between with no huge break. neither of those are dominating our weather. our forecast for today, cloudy skies, a couple of showers. 48-52 degrees. an isolated showers returning after
sandy was probably the last significant measurable rain we have had. we can use it. we will have chances on and off throughout the weekend. consider yourself lucky. it is friday. we do have showers north and west of the metro. everybody is sucked in with the cloudiness. nothing is sitting in the district right now. there are some drizzles at dulles. we had a touch just to the south and moving over towards the eastern shore at this time. it is a beautiful stark, isn't it? take a look at this...
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the fallout from hurricane sandy is continuing to disrupt businesses and their hiring and fear of the fiscal cliff is keeping employers from bringing on new workers. they don't know what future tax rates will be and if they can afford more hiring. but on capitol hill democrats are trying to highlight the positives. >> we had a little problem because of what happened with hurricane sandy but we'll still have about 100,000 new jobs. >> reporter: the report comes out in just 15 minutes. we'll show you who is hiring and who is not. reporting live from washington, d.c. alison burns ktvu channel 2 news. >>> time now 5:15. fundraising records were shattered by both president obama and mitt romney during their campaigns. they raised more than $2 billion. campaign finance records show the president raised $1.1 billion for his reelection effort. his republican challenger mitt romney was close behind. $1.1billion. now the record setting amounts don't include the hundreds of millions sent by super packs on ads. >>> it was called the zombie apocalypse. why this simulation at a homeland security ar
the fallout from hurricane sandy is continuing to disrupt businesses and their hiring and fear of the fiscal cliff is keeping employers from bringing on new workers. they don't know what future tax rates will be and if they can afford more hiring. but on capitol hill democrats are trying to highlight the positives. >> we had a little problem because of what happened with hurricane sandy but we'll still have about 100,000 new jobs. >> reporter: the report comes out in just 15...
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ruth is in sandy hook connecticut. >> good morning, bill. i am calling to say, please keep feeling guilty. >> why? >> because this adorable company does things to make sure that they don't pay taxes in the u.s. there is a thing called -- this was in "the new york times." it's double-dutch sandwich which reduces taxes by routing profits through irish subsidarbs like they are in i think arizona, even when they do things in california they manage to ship a part somewhere else. so they are one of the worst, even worse than wal-mart in terms of what they might have contributed to to. i take it that $24,000,000,000. >> they are avoiding in taxes . >> one little tiny thing, they have had the opportunity over the courses of the years to do things in a much safer way when they manufacture in china and all over the place. >> no. there have been stories about the working conditions in china which is another reason i am glad these jobs are coming here. ruth ruth, you make a good point. i feel good about apple but we also have to change the tax laws so t
ruth is in sandy hook connecticut. >> good morning, bill. i am calling to say, please keep feeling guilty. >> why? >> because this adorable company does things to make sure that they don't pay taxes in the u.s. there is a thing called -- this was in "the new york times." it's double-dutch sandwich which reduces taxes by routing profits through irish subsidarbs like they are in i think arizona, even when they do things in california they manage to ship a part...
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everybody thought sandy was going to drag the jobs numbers into a horrible place. that didn't happen at all. why not? >> well, simply by way not everybody -- my forecast was a lot higher than the consensus. >> true. >> unusual. >> yeah, you were optimistic. >> i was optimistic. the reason is a lot of people and areas hit were not like the gulf coast of mississippi. they were a prosperous neighborhoods of people on salary. now, the houses were devastated and i feel terrible for them, but they're in the jobs if they can't make it to work for a week, they don't go on the unemployment rolls. what's more is almost from day one you put people to work cleaning up. all the national guardsmen arrive. they go on the government payroll, and if they stay a couple of weeks employers replace them. they put somebody else on the payroll. there were ordinarily hourly workers who didn't get to work and filed for unemployment, but by and by this is not an unemployment creator. >> you know, jared, i have a question for you here. first, i do want to mention a little detail from the rep
everybody thought sandy was going to drag the jobs numbers into a horrible place. that didn't happen at all. why not? >> well, simply by way not everybody -- my forecast was a lot higher than the consensus. >> true. >> unusual. >> yeah, you were optimistic. >> i was optimistic. the reason is a lot of people and areas hit were not like the gulf coast of mississippi. they were a prosperous neighborhoods of people on salary. now, the houses were devastated and i feel...
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. ♪ bill: there is a new report that super storm sandy cost the economy $60 billion, for lost productivity and output. rick leventhal is live in staten island, new york where some industries have actually benefitted. what is the story there, rick? >> reporter: of koerbs, bil course, the businesses directly in the storm surge, retail and restaurants a lot of them have suffered dramatically. other businesses, contractors and home improvement have done very, very well. roofers, landscapers, electrical contractors. this couple run a electrical business and you guys have been crazy busy right? >> yes, since the storm we had hen emergency influx of emergency work. we are aeurbl to hire back some of the people we had laid off and we are looking to hire more people to handle the work that is coming in. >> reporter: you have more work than you can even do yourselves. >> wyatt this point. >> reporter: and you see what, no end in sight? >> we see this generating a very long term, at least a year, two years hopefully. >> reporter: it's great that they are actually able to employ other people as well.
. ♪ bill: there is a new report that super storm sandy cost the economy $60 billion, for lost productivity and output. rick leventhal is live in staten island, new york where some industries have actually benefitted. what is the story there, rick? >> reporter: of koerbs, bil course, the businesses directly in the storm surge, retail and restaurants a lot of them have suffered dramatically. other businesses, contractors and home improvement have done very, very well. roofers,...
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jersey paid a visit to president obama to plead for money to help his state rebuild from superstorm sandy. the storm destroyed 80% of seaside heights more than a month ago. the famous boardwalk was left in pieces. today governor chris christie asked the president and congress for more financial aid. christie says it's going to take $37 billion to recover and the president promises to help. >> he knows that our work is not done any more than the work in the states is done. >> president obama is expected to ask for $50 billion in storm relief for new jersey, new york and connecticut. >>> meantime, president obama made a special trip to virginia today to highlight his fix for the "fiscal cliff." the deadline for the president and congress to find a way to avoid tax increases and spending cuts is 25 days away. president obama made a special point to sit with a middle class family in virginia this afternoon. he was trying to offer an example of who would be hurt by the republican tax proposal. >> for them to be burdened unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to
jersey paid a visit to president obama to plead for money to help his state rebuild from superstorm sandy. the storm destroyed 80% of seaside heights more than a month ago. the famous boardwalk was left in pieces. today governor chris christie asked the president and congress for more financial aid. christie says it's going to take $37 billion to recover and the president promises to help. >> he knows that our work is not done any more than the work in the states is done. >>...